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    The piracy debate: which side of the fence are you on?

    05 July 2011: Pirated CDs are dropped into a shredding machine as part of Manila City government's anti-piracy …(UPDATE) When drummer Gep Macadaeg of Y! Rocks breakthrough act Stereodeal declared in a Yahoo! Philippines OMG! story I wrote that  "we haven’t understood piracy completely” and that “we’re in a phase where we only see [piracy’s] negative consequences,”  he triggered a firestorm of comments.

    Some couldn't comprehend the idea of a musician supporting an activity that robs them of potential revenues.

    Others, like reader "SeVen" concede, "Sure, piracy might help an unknown band be heard by more people. Some famous bands have also said that they do not mind if people bring small personal recorders to their concerts."

    But "SeVen" was concerned about having professionally recorded albums copied or perhaps downloaded. "It is common sense that the people who spend their money to make a product (studios, artists, packaging, promotions) should be the ones to reap the rewards for their efforts. Stealing is stealing..it does not matter what it is that is stolen..it is wrong."

    "NOR" conveyed a similar sentiment: "this goes to show how some people are so simple minded...how can they earn a living if their music will be distributed for free thru piracy/sharing?"

    Do old models still work?

    This prompted Stereodeal guitarist and Yahoo! OMG contributing writer Adrian Arcega to reply: "That's assuming the old business paradigms are still valid in this age."

    Those models were best articulated by former Sugarfree bassist and UP professor Jalton "Jal" Taguibao, who threw in his few cents' worth when Adrian posted a link of the story on his Facebook.

    "Piracy only applies to those who see the scene as an industry, where everything is measured by profits and losses. To others (and I share this sentiment), there are more valuable things like craft, authenticity, and being better," he said.

    The debate prompted Jal to write an essay about piracy in his personal blog, "Blogging from the B-Side." He pointed out that creativity and making music are not "causally dependent on the state of the music industry."

    Even if the so-called industry dies, musicians will continue writing music, artists will still do art, and writers will write.

    Neil Gaiman thinks piracy is 'incredibly good'

    In an interview that appeared in 2011 called "How Neil Gaiman Went From Fearing 'Piracy' To Believing It's 'An Incredibly Good Thing,'" the author said he noticed that in Russia, where his books are bootlegged, he would actually sell more legitimate copies.

    "People were discovering me through being pirated," he said. "And then they were going out and buying the real books, and when a new book would come out in Russia it would sell more and more copies."

    It's the same point of view that Yahoo! reader "Leelo" takes with the observation: "The reason new or young bands resort to peer-to-peer sharing is they see the reality that it's hard to get their sounds heard in this industry. They seek the help of peers to spread their music."

    The difference between giving and taking

    Adrian sees another benefit of sharing. "Piracy in its own way has also become an archive of material (films, albums) which otherwise won't be easily accessible to the public. The war on piracy should be about making your material accessible, and worth the people's money."

    Indeed, during Wolfgang's live performance in Bicol last year, vocalist Basti Artadi was giving away the band's old CDs to the audience. He was heard calling out, "Make a copy for your friends. Upload it on the Internet. Do whatever you want with it!"

    Wolfgang manager Lizza Nakpil explains, "There is a difference between 'giving' and 'taking.' In this case, Wolfgang chose to give away their music as a thank-you to the monster crowds who turned out to watch them despite the band's being away all these years."

    Clearly, there are many, many sides to the piracy debate.

     
    • Ben Joseph  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      Piracy is common at forgivable but PLAIGARISM and stealing of ideas na hindi naman sa kanya ay hindi FYI
    • SimSimi  •  3 months ago
      If piracy kills the media, bakit ang yayayaman parin ng mga nasa Hollywood? Kahit ang mga artista natin overpaid. hnd nmn sa sinihan nakukuha ang mga pera nila, sa commercials. parang extra lng nila ang movie or bigbreak. nevertheless. ang yayayaman parin nila.
    • ..tawahaha..  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      piracy is gud for the poor people. Musicians and artist " cooperate " to the MFG of Pirate CD so that they also earn extra profit.
      And for the Original, people who have enough money to buy.
      • Gruesome 3 months ago
        Why not ask Presidential Political Adviser Roland Llamas? Or do we still have to? Adviser Llamas, tama ba assumption ko? that piracy is good? you should know better di ba kaya ka nga piniling adviser ng presidente eh. Cheers for Capt. Obvious!
    • Zero Cool  •  3 months ago
      I think piracy is good..try to ask Johnny Deep.
    • jeth  •  3 months ago
      ok lng yan piracy binilhan nga ni sec llamas c AB ng cd..
    • Benj  •  3 months ago
      welcome to the cyber world
    • thedevilhimself  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      ok naman sakin piracy basta lang di nito susuportahan terorismo.....kung bakit sang ayon ako? panahon pa ng 90's eraserheads pina pirate na mga tapes kaya IMO di na talaga magbabago bentahan piracy andyan na yan... kung baga nasa kultura na natin yun..... isa pa kung wala pirated dvd ang mahal ng x-rated na original baka abutin P1500 compared na mabibili mo sa muslim P40 at libre sa torrent
    • glenn  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      ang original ay para lang doon sa may kakayahang bumili, saka dapat ipagbawal din yung pangkopya.
    • Joseph  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      Piracy is still stealing the produced of another person no matter what. Even if the source is original.... I will stil buy the orignal:D
      • NESTY 3 months ago
        tang ina ka joseph
      • Simply RED 3 months ago
        Talaga??? Napakaraming hipokritong commenters dito. Kala mo talagang puro orig ang binibili. Talking about piracy in general, kahit minsan ba hindi ka nakapanood ng pirated movie o nakapakining sa ipod mo ng mp3 na downloaded sa internet? Lahat ba ay binili mo sa iTunes store?

        Ang mga software (Windows, MS Office, Photoshop) at games (Warcraft, Starcraft, Red Alert, Counterstrike, Battlefield, Call of Duty, Need for Speed, GTA IV, NBA Live, SIMS 3) na nagamit mo sa computer e puro lisensiyado ba?

        Ni minsan ba ay hindi ka nakagamit ng pekeng damit, sapatos, wallet, jacket, underwear, relo, pabango, etc.?

        Ni minsan ba ay di ka nagpa-xerox ng kahit isang chapter sa libro sa school?

        Copyright infringement ang mga ito. Sa madaling salita, piracy.
      • Irish 3 months ago
        @simply red, ginawa yan lhat ni joseph nagkukunwari lng.....
    • Rosa  •  Quezon City, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      eh paano naman mabibile ang mga origs na cd's dvd's eh super mahal compare sa 30pesos pababa pa, pati nga yung cabinet member ni pinoy, bumile lang sa mura dvd eh ginawan pa nang isyu eh sa gusto bumile nung tao sa mura eh bakit kayo magagalit...
    • Eric Jay  •  3 months ago
      sa ordinaryong juan de la cruz (including me) mas bibili ng pirated kumpara sa original na ang mahal ng price, nagiging praktikal lng nman karamihan sa mga pinoy. Bibili ba sila ng cd/dvd na mas mahal pa ang presyo sa kanilang pagkain sa hapag kung kakarampot lng yung kita nila. eh kahit pinipirata yung mga movies/songs dun nman sumisikat yung mga artist sa masa dahil yun yung paraan para mkta nila yung idol nila..
    • Mar  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      Whether we like it or not, piracy is here to stay unless they can make the original affordable to the masses. Goodness gracious, even the affluent crowd go looking for DVD or blu-ray copies in numerous tiangges around the country. Why buy something that you can get for about a tenth of it's price? Producers of original discs as well as the artists themselves must moderate their greed for profit instead of just demanding patronage for their products.
    • lotusrising  •  3 months ago
      if you have able politicians, industry will bloom to a good extent, WALANG kinalaman ang piracy sa industriya ng pilipinas, may kinalaman ang piracy sa mga KINIKITA ng mga artists! LUGI KASI SILA! sino ba nagsusulong anti piracy? mga artist beneficiaries din! business talaga. gagamitin mo pa yung pangalang Pilipino! kung di nakabenta ang artist they blame it on piracy, pero yung QUALITY ng mismong ORIGINAL product nila? ayos ba? ask before you blame something in words pare.
    • tagzskie  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      Buy only original cd, dvd,blu ray if its worth it.. Garbage movies, songs deserve to be pirated! why?? kase pag sinoportahan mo ang mga basura masusundan pa un ng another basura.. So for me piracy is not that bad specially to those deserve it. Pede pa syang maka help na next time magandang quality na ang gawin para suportahan
    • clive  •  Jeddah, Saudi Arabia  •  3 months ago
      Yung mga piniratang mga CD's tama lang na kumpiskahin kasi pinagkakwartahan nila, but to those who downloaded items for personal use, I think its a means of filtering what you like. I have quite a number of music CD's but I don't keep pirated ones.
    • 4Dukato  •  3 months ago
      You still can't deny that piracy means stealing.
    • Tamsap  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      Its not right to rationalize what is wrong.
      • surebol 3 months ago
        the fallacy of generalization...
    • Blair  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      It all depends on the Law and How will they exercise it...If you value Quality...Buy Original....If your not...Its your free will to buy Fake...But we all know what is the implications. "Kukita nga para may pamakain...yung mga Legal na nagtatarabaho walang makain"...REFLECT ON THAT...
      • ayie 3 months ago
        hypocritical blair
    • Louie  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      milyon milyon ang kinikita sa movies, sa music cd's,,, bakit nga ba di babaan ang presyo ng mga ito para wala ng piracy.
    • lotusrising  •  3 months ago
      kaya madaming agaist sa piracy ay dahil malulugi ang mga movies at ibang artists sa business nila, akala mo ba na kahit orig lang ang pwede bilhin kung iaayon nila sa batas ay HINDI pa rin UUNLAD ang pilipinas! yayaman lang ang mga artists na yan! at take note, only a handful of movies and music artists are worth buying for as an original, kasi one time mo lang naman papakinggan at papanoorin, hindi araw araw. style ng mga negosyante talaga, kahit ano sabihin nyo, bumibili ako ng orig pero yung maganda lang talaga and worth keeping for, the other thing na di naman ganon kaganda, i don't mind kahit pirated, kahit nga telenovela ng ibang bansa, napipirata din ang dialogue. talk about piracy tactics is only money.