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    Yahoo! Best-Picture Roundtable: Is “The Artist” a slam dunk — or can “The Descendants,” “Hugo,” or “The Help” defy the odds?

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    Lately, saying "The Artist" will win best picture is like predicting that Obama will be the Democratic presidential nominee. A safe bet. But is there upset potential? We gathered our expert crew to chime in. For our final Yahoo! Roundtable of the 2012 Oscar season, I welcome my colleagues Jonathan Crow, Matthew Whitfield, as well as actress-director Jordan Bayne, THR film reporter Tim Appelo, critic Caryn James, and Oscar guru Nathaniel Rogers.

    Thelma Adams: OK, here we are: Down to the wire with our final 2012 Oscar roundtable. Best picture. I swung toward "The Help," but it just doesn't have the across-the-board support. I love "The Descendants," but did it peak too early? Is a win for "The Artist" inevitable? Or is it just the safe bet?

    Matt Whitfield: It kills me to admit this -- because "The Tree of Life" was beyond genius and is deserving of much more praise -- but there are only three films in the race at this point. "The Artist," "The Help," and "The Descendants" all have a legit shot, but the overrated Hazanavicius-directed flick has the most important element in its arsenal ... momentum.

    Caryn James: I think "The Artist," "The Help" and "Hugo" all have a real shot -- but if anything is going to overtake "The Artist," voters who wanted some of the also-ran nominees will have to abandon them or the votes will be too scattered. Sometimes the safe bet just wins.

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    Jordan Bayne: Not much else to say really. I have been very vocal already about how much I did not like "The Descendants." To me, "The Tree of Life" is the best picture of the nominees. I loved "A Separation" from Iran, which, of course, is not in this category but it is such a strong film. There were so many films the Academy overlooked. ...

    Jonathan Crow: Is it just me or is this an especially bland year for the Oscars? There's nothing nominated for best picture that I hated (of, course I avoided seeing "Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close"), but there wasn't anything I really loved. Or really liked, even. "The Help" is basically a pretty dishonest movie, but it's fun to watch and it made a lot of money. "The Artist" is, sigh, fine. Not great. Not bad. Just fine. "The Descendants" is also fine. "The Tree of Life" is gorgeous and portentous, but it left me cold and the last half hour looked like it was from an erectile dysfunction ad. The Academy had 10 possible slots, and they chose some of the most tepid Oscar-bait-y flicks around. Of course, this came from a year that saw an eighth "Harry Potter" movie, a fifth "Fast Five" flick, a fourth "Pirates" movie, a third "Transformers" film, a "Hangover" sequel, and, for some reason "Thor." Hollywood isn't in the mood to be imaginative, and the best-picture Oscars illustrate that. Gimme "Drive," "Melancholia," "Young Adult," "Take Shelter," "A Separation" (yes, it's in Foreign, but if "Life Is Beautiful" can be nominated, so can this one), "Bellflower," "Shame," and "We Need to Talk About Kevin." These movies took chances, the best-picture nominees (with the admitted exception of "The Tree of Life") didn't. But, for the Oscar poll, I'll flip a coin between "The Help" and "The Artist."

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    Thelma: Oh, Jon, how did we get to this point where "The Artist" is the front-runner? Is it the Oscar homogenization factor? Certainly there are those who say "stop dumping on 'The Artist,'" and I understand that impulse. But is saying it's a macaroon and not a full gateau dumping, or is it a valid critique? As you said, "sigh, fine, not great."

    "The Descendants" to me is the kind of movie Hollywood should be making all the time: smart, adult, entertaining, moving and, OK, star-driven like a Prius. I take issue with you on "The Help," because I think it is more honest than people give it credit for, honest in a candy shell, like M&M's. It connects with audiences, true. But I think it's honest about the complicated relationships between women in a very specific social context -- therefore it's about women, race, and class. But that might not be how you consider it dishonest, so I'll sidebar that discussion for now, counselor. I love your description of the last half hour of "The Tree of Life" as looking like it was from "an erectile dysfunction ad." Ha! And the core story, despite the shimmering Pitt & Chastain, is a cliché with plot holes. Let's ask this question: Why is Sean Penn's character so grumpy and lost, and did you really connect him with the brother he played as a grownup?

    The trouble is Oscar bait versus daring, and there we sit on the same bench, Jon, even if we don't share the exact same titles. "Melancholia!" "We Need to Talk About Kevin!" And I would add "The Devil's Double" and "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy" -- has anybody talked about the subtlety of that film's integration of homosexual culture? I'm sure someone has.

    There is almost not a dog, or an Oscar footnote, that we haven't discussed this season. But does that make Oscars irrelevant? No. I'm defiant. We coalesce around these choices, we discuss, we put forth our alternatives, we say this is what we want in our culture, this is cinema, and this is a movie. And, hell, sometimes I'll take a good movie over cinema, but then my mind wanders back a few years to the "Star Trek" reboot.

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    Jonathan: I guess what I'm reacting against is the lack of passion that this race is instilling in me. This is a first. There's no "Social Network" to root for or a "Crash" to despise. Does this make the Oscars irrelevant? Probably not, but if it keeps selecting the safe, it risks becoming the Grammys.  On the other hand, it's kind of great that all these Hollywood heavyweights are probably going to lose to a silent French flick.

    Nathaniel Rogers: I'll never be able to wrap my head around the now wide perception that "The Artist" is a safe choice. This is a silent film from France ... and a comedy. Virtually every year the media complains that Oscar doesn't love comedy, and virtually every time Oscar does love a comedy the same voices complain that the film is too much of a trifle.

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    I love "The Artist: and I'm not ashamed to admit it. It's more inventively and joyously made than most of its competition. And shouldn't we want invention and joy, even (gasp) novelties on occasion, so that the movies aren't just one repetitive parade of superhero blockbusters in the summer and middlebrow "prestige" pictures about important issues for the holidays?

    As for "A Separation," I think it's *the* best picture of the year, but I don't really blame the Academy for leaving it out of the top category. I think with the wider field they would have nominated it had it been pushed early enough. But Sony Pictures Classics waited and waited and waited. I bet it just barely squeaked into the screenplay category given how few people had seen it when nomination ballots were due.

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    Thelma: OK, Nathaniel. I heard you. It was your point on comedy that registered. So I took "The Artist" challenge -- and watched it again last night. I still love it, and have renewed faith in Dujardin, but I think it lags in the second half before the big finish. And it's a short film to be anything less than compelling from start to finish. Is anybody else going to take "The Artist" challenge? I think I'll pull out "The Descendants" next. I've seen "The Help" in chunks on DVD and surprised myself with how much I was moved and touched -- again.

    Tim Appelo: Good point about "The Artist" -- you're supposed to get your second wind when you're running a marathon, not a 220. "The Descendants" is incomparably the best Oscar candidate, both in quality and Oscar-worthy emotion, but Payne's method is not obvious enough. Oscar doesn't want the art that conceals art -- it wants "The Artist." "The Help," "The Artist," "Hugo." So many films this season were respectable base hits, but where's the home run? For me, that would be "The Descendants," "A Separation," "Pina," "Melancholia," "Midnight in Paris," maybe even "Drive," "Super 8," and "Bridesmaids" (what the hell).

    Thelma: And that's a wrap. I thank all of our panelists for their frank Oscar insights. Tune in to ABC on Sunday night to see the final results. We'll be watching, too.

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    13 comments

    • G-Money  •  2 months ago
      Still #$%$ that Drive didn't get nominated...
    • Hellenic Logic  •  2 months ago
      The Artist deserves "Best Picture". The movie moved me like no other movie I have seen the past decade. It is pure, brilliant, and evocative. The acting was amazing and the cinematography heaven.
    • monkey face dog  •  Chicago, United States  •  2 months ago
      any move could win but the artist is a public mitake. we all perfer talkies. its easy to make a movie without sound, just turn it off.period stuff is also east just go to the warehouse for stuff you need. but to tell a story today needs a good writting and acting. not something as easy as no sound. you have to read and if you miss something you could get lost in the movie. but if its simple than the gimick was the no sound. that not a story.
    • Chris  •  San Diego, United States  •  2 months ago
      Mark My Words: Best Picture.. The Help. The Artist doesn't even stand a chance. Oscar voters are old and don't get out much. In general, Best Pictures aren't movies that few have actually.. hence The Artist is DOA.
    • alastair  •  Maidenhead, United Kingdom  •  2 months ago
      I hope The Artist doesn't win. When you go to the movies you want to be entertained.Not go to watch a silent black and white French movie. Silent movies died out in the 1930's for one good reason no one could be bothered with them. Also last year's big winner The King's Speech was also ( an old Scottish saying) a load of mince.
      • Brian Z 2 months ago
        I'm sorry you actually feel that it is impossible to be entertained by something that is in B&W or is silent or dares to be from another country (The Maltese Falcon, Charlie Chaplin and Das Boat are all laughing at that, right now). That tells me all I need to know about your lack of understanding of the word "entertainment".

        I'm also intrigued that your listed as being from the UK. We Americans usually get accused of being the only ones closed minded about movies. It's nice to know that you're doing your part to dismiss that stereotype.
    • Tommy corbett Corbett  •  Midland, United States  •  2 months ago
      I loved The Descendants so that is my pick for best picture. I also liked the Tree of Life. The Help would be #3 and The Artist #4
    • dave j  •  Green Bay, United States  •  2 months ago
      The Artist is a work of fine art in every way possible. The acting sublime, the cinematography, the costumes, the direction, the Dog!, that Dog was genius. The Artist is that one of a kind movie much like Chicago was in 2002. Sheer brilliance on all levels.
    • Patrick Connolly  •  2 months ago
      To me, the home run was HUGO, and it isn't just the fact that the 3D was revolutionary. A week before the film premiered in theaters, I lost my father. He was a well-loved director of the East Hartford Summer Youth Festival, a summer theater group in Connecticut that I would dare say was the best decision of my life. He was THE bravest man I've ever known. He died to a sudden illness that shocked many people in our community. I didn't know how I would go on, and the fact that I saw Happy Feet Two after the funeral in an attempt to cheer myself up didn't help either.

      Now on the day it came out, I was more excited to see The Muppets than HUGO because I felt that The Muppets would make my life worth living. But I had time to kill since my sister wanted to go with her friends to see(make fun of) Breaking Dawn early. So I decided to see HUGO before The Muppets since I heard a lot of good stuff about it. But to be honest, even with all the praise about it being 'a love letter to cinema,' I still was confused. I was thinking 'How can something that was advertised as a kid's film be a love letter to cinema and recieve some of the best reviews of the year?'

      My question was answered in the first two shots: It's a special, special film.

      And let me tell you that The Muppets, while a good film that I also hold dear to my heart, didn't stand a chance against HUGO. HUGO was the only film I saw six times in a theater, and oh, how I wish I would go for a seventh. This film changed me in a way that no other film did in the seventeen years I live on this flawed planet. It made me realize that I have a purpose in this world, and that purpose is to help/fix people, just like the title character. I have friends at school that go through tough times, and I tell them that "it may be hard, but you'll find your happy ending, one way AND another." I find my happy ending because I find theirs, and if that idea wasn't pure inspiration this movie gave me, then I can't tell what else is.

      If HUGO loses Best Picture, then I won't complain, I will remember. I will remember the memories that this movie gave me that I will tell my future children. I will show this movie to my children and they can share it to theirs. Because this movie makes me believe that happy endings don't always happen in the movies. They happen to everyone and everything that enters into this flawed-but-beautiful world we call 'life.' You can argue that EVERY film on the Best Picture list deals with that idea, but to me, they were not as inspiring, joyous, and powerful as HUGO.

      So I write this today because 'of one very brave young man, who saw a broken machine and against all odds, he fixed it. It was the kindest magic that ever I've seen.' I applaud every person involved in this picture. They had a purpose to create something beautiful and show it to the world, and they did it. They really, REALLY did it.
    • Rene  •  Richardson, United States  •  2 months ago
      TE ARTIST "just fine?" Have you even seen it you #$%$ Not only is it a piece of art, but it could not have worked any other way unless it was SILENT!!!! Where do they get all this so called EXPERTS? The tree of life? Really? When I need someone's view on the phylosophy of life, I WILL ASK FOR IT!!!!!!!!! Movies are for ENTERTAINMENT! Don't tell me you actually believe everything you see in a movie that is BASE ON A TRUE STORY or BASE ON ACTUAL FACTS? Bunch of ingrids! Bunch of pretentious snobbs.
    • Tommy corbett Corbett  •  Midland, United States  •  2 months ago
      I also like Contagion very much although it was not nominated. I will have to wait for DVDs to watch all the foreign language films
    • Tyler  •  2 months ago
      2911 wasn't a great year for movies. Nothing like The Departed or Avatar.
    • Mir farbod Hajmiragha  •  Tehran, Iran  •  2 months ago
      I just saw THE ARTIST last night and I just saw HUGO . I really loved the simplicity of the artist and it was really entertaining to watch a movie with the 1920s style . I really hope that it gets the best picture award
    • A Yahoo! User  •  2 months ago
      And the winner is ... The Artist. A film people talk about, but will probably only rent ... when they can't find anything else to watch at home. Weinstein Brothers specialize in buzz movies that aren't really seen by many people.
      • dave j 2 months ago
        Quality movie goers seek quality movies is why. After months of junk movies once a year something magical like The Artist and My Week With Marilyn come along and you are reminded why you love movies all over again. The movie making business in America would be sad indeed with the risk taking of the Weinsteins. Congratulations and thank yous to them.
        I will add both films to my own personal collection to be watched over and over again and again like art.